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Mickey vs. Minnie: Dividing Disneyland in a Magical Divorce
What happens when the world's most famous mouse couple calls it quits? Aaron and Aaron tackle this hilariously complex hypothetical scenario by dividing up the most valuable asset in this animated divorce: Disneyland itself.
Armed with shots of tequila and guided by special guest mediator Eli, the hosts transform into rival attorneys representing Mickey and Minnie in increasingly specific negotiations. Their property division follows an unexpected guiding principle: Mickey embodies "fun and excitement" while Minnie represents "elegance and fashion." This distinction drives their decisions about who deserves what throughout the park.
The negotiations get surprisingly heated over dining locations, with Plaza Inn and Blue Bayou becoming particularly contentious properties. When dividing Disneyland's lands, Mickey claims Main Street, Tomorrowland, and Frontierland, while Minnie receives New Orleans Square, Fantasyland, and Adventureland. The castle becomes shared property, with careful stipulations about princess appearances and parade routes.
Character custody arrangements follow naturally from their established personas—Mickey keeps his pals Goofy, Donald and Pluto, while Minnie gets Daisy and Clarabelle. The hosts demonstrate impressive Disney knowledge throughout, referencing everything from merchandise trends to restaurant atmospheres with the precision of true park enthusiasts.
Join us for this tequila-enhanced thought experiment that reveals how deeply Disney characters have embedded themselves in our cultural imagination, and subscribe to hear more uniquely entertaining Disney discussions!
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Hello and welcome to Cheers, to Ears, where today we are drinking shots of tequila. Why are we drinking shots of tequila? Oh, for a good reason. For a good reason Because we're discussing what if Mickey and Minnie got a divorce, got a?
Speaker 2:divorce Right, we're assuming they're married.
Speaker 1:We're assuming they're married. I didn't look up. I was going to look up that history too, and I did not.
Speaker 2:But if you look at the Great Vacation, at the great vacation and mickey's runaway railway, he's going to pick her up, right vacation fun, right? So they probably weren't married, so they have their own houses they have their own houses, even in toontown.
Speaker 1:In toontown I don't know. So assuming they're married for this, if they because I was gonna look it up, because my argument was going to be for mickey that if he had all this stuff before they even met, yeah, he didn't right't Right Before they were married.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Property laws California. It's all his Right.
Speaker 1:I would just drop the mic and walk away. But there are no prenups. There weren't any prenups.
Speaker 2:No, no, because Mickey's not that smart.
Speaker 1:But Walt was, though, and he had Walt on his side, did he, Did he? I bet you're going to talk about that. Since you just said it like that, I bet you have things to say. I don't know. I'm totally scared on what's going to come out of Aaron's mouth on this episode. That's why we have the tequila.
Speaker 2:So we're doing three shots of tequila. We are With this. Tell us how you made those, aaron? By pouring the tequila in the glass. But we're doing tequila because I imagine neither one of us experiencing a divorce that you would probably drink a lot of tequila if you were going through a divorce Sounded right when we decided on this episode.
Speaker 1:It sounds like it.
Speaker 2:And you can get a flight of tequila at a Disney park. You can. Where would you go to?
Speaker 1:get a flight of tequila. You would go to San Angel in Restaurante. And where is that? At Epcot. It's at Epcot, the Mexico Pavilion, right. So in the Mexico Pavilion they have four different flights of tequila, and I won't mention them here because it's a long list of the different tequilas and the flights. They start at $21. And the second up ones, the second below one's $25 and $38. And the top one's $40.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a mezcal.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That's the lowest, if that's your thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they all look good. Ones that create your own traditional and their own those have different tequila flights you can get.
Speaker 2:So, like those, we are doing one Blanco, one Reposado and one Añejo, right. So we're starting with a Blanco El Himador. Okay, blanco tequila, and we're just taking shots. Yeah, cheers, blanco tequila and we're just taking shots. Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1:Not bad, that was smoother than I thought that was very smooth. I don't think I said that like it was smoother.
Speaker 2:A little bit of burnout. Should have had a little lime.
Speaker 1:Right, so for this discussion. We had a discussion a few weeks ago, yeah.
Speaker 2:About when.
Speaker 1:About villains.
Speaker 2:About villains debating who was worse and we needed a moderator.
Speaker 1:Right, aaron and I just argued the whole time and came up with zero conclusions and nothing, but we're still arguing over it today.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because, I'm right, we brought in my son. Eli's home from college for a spring break right now. Judge advocate Eli and since he's a celebrated guest of our podcast, he's back. Welcome Eli.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you, and we even gave him a microphone.
Speaker 1:this time I have my very own microphone. This time we didn't have to share, right, we're coming up in the world, people. Yes.
Speaker 2:So we broke it down. Yeah, different categories. I will be the lawyer for Minnie Mouse. Correct, aaron will be the lawyer for Mickey. And we've got to decide what to do with Disneyland. And we cut it off at Disneyland because this could get long.
Speaker 1:Right, hopefully it's not too long. Anyway, eli, come in anytime you want. You're in charge of the conversation. If it gets too crazy, stop us.
Speaker 2:We might need to appeal to the judge in deciding who gets what.
Speaker 1:I did not prepare an opening statement, did you? No, I did not.
Speaker 2:Okay, I almost did, minnie deserves everything for putting up with Mickey's crap. That's my opening statement. Here's the bottle of Reposado.
Speaker 1:Mickey's crap. I object, that's hearsay.
Speaker 3:Sustained, sustained.
Speaker 1:I think the judge has bought you guys at the same time okay, so I started with clothing and merchandise okay, I did not. That wasn't so already. Already we're at odds. Yeah, because that wasn't part of our original agreement, of what we're going to talk about today. Last week, when we discussed, we didn't talk about stuff. Clothing and merchandise was not on the list so. But so I object already and I think that it should just be split 50 50 on the on the ground okay, so here's bringing it up 50, 50 and I'd like a recess
Speaker 3:he's offering 50, 50 anyway mini is offering 50.
Speaker 2:50 except on ear revenue. It should 100 for many for Minnie.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be fair this entire time. I'm not going to try to rip. I think this is an amical divorce.
Speaker 2:I don't, I'm not better but I'm happier.
Speaker 1:There's no way, mickey cheated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did. There's no way he walked around without clothes on.
Speaker 1:He's the happiest nicest guy he's a rat. No, he's so nice that Donald Duck was invented. This is true. Oh, that's a good point. So so I'm making many ears are the biggest thing at Disneyland. Yes, as far as merchandise goes, right, and that's only fair, because Mickey ears were, they started with Mickey ears, but there's no like as, being males that go to the park, mickey ears are stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a little. There's no like as being males that go to the park. Mickey ears are stupid. Yeah, a little yarmulke with ears on them right it's, there's, no, there's, no.
Speaker 1:There's that one leather set they sell. That's the only option, and you have to have a small head, big headed people like me and the only work on, the only celebration of those is patrick warburton on soren over california.
Speaker 2:And these little beauties, oh, the cap ones, yeah ones. Yeah Right, the ones with the cap on it.
Speaker 3:The baseball cap one is fine, too Right.
Speaker 1:they were fun when I was a kid. They're good for little kids, but for male adults, Mickey ears, there's not a good option. So you're agreeing with that. I agree with that, Okay.
Speaker 2:Minnie would also like to retain control over all clothing merchandise decisions, since mickey's clothing choices aren't all that great, does he just wear? Shorts and when she look, when mickey looks good, it's because of many those. She gets 100 a year revenue. She gets to make all the decisions for clothing merchandise and everything else is split 50 50 okay, so clothing.
Speaker 1:So I will concede to that if you will agree that many is the elegant one and mickey is split 50 50. Okay, so clothing. So I will concede to that if you will agree that minnie is the elegant one and mickey is the fun one. Yes, okay, going forward. I like that on the record. Mickey's fun, mickey's fun and excite, exciting. Okay, minnie's elegant and fashionable. She is okay.
Speaker 3:Let's move on my job is easy so far.
Speaker 2:So please enter that into the record.
Speaker 3:Judgy like I don't have my typewriter so noted that's the stare.
Speaker 1:That's the. What's that called this? What's the person?
Speaker 3:called the court recorder the court recorder.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, she's over here okay thank you, ma'am okay, should we move on to food?
Speaker 1:food. I also didn't. I did dining Dining places yeah, is that what you did? Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, minnie, first off, minnie is she's willing to relinquish all claims to all snack locations, since most are shaped like Mickey anyway, except she wants full control over. She wants Maurice's treats. She likes a you know, a twist Cheshire cattail or you know all that type of stuff. That's the one snack location she wants.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'll concede to Maurice's treats if all restaurants on Main Street are Mickey's. No, there's no restaurants on Main Street that Mickey and Minnie would even need.
Speaker 2:Carnation Cafe. Why? Because she wants it. No, that's not good enough.
Speaker 1:That's not good enough. Main Street restaurants are Mickey. They say Mickey Okay, Carnation Cafe and Mickey Gets Blue Bayou.
Speaker 2:No, definitely not. She's elegant, but you want Carnation.
Speaker 1:Cafe isn't elegant.
Speaker 2:It's Disney elegant, no it's Main Street, elegant.
Speaker 1:You can't do that.
Speaker 2:It's either elegant or not. Marisa's.
Speaker 1:Treats is on Main Street, I would like.
Speaker 2:And that's what you're getting. This isn't even no, it isn't. It's over by Royal, the Royal Theater, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, carnation Cafe is a total Mickey hangout, because it's fun and relaxing. You get a soda that's totally Mickey.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, what's going on as he walks in? You have to make reservations. Have you ever eaten there?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you don't just walk up there. I need a gavel. Okay, let's step back, because we're not even talking about restaurants yet.
Speaker 2:So you guys are arguing before you even decide about snacks.
Speaker 1:Yes, we just started into restaurants. Yeah, snacks and restaurants, snacks and restaurants.
Speaker 3:But he's conceding to all the snack locations.
Speaker 1:Okay, except for.
Speaker 2:Maurice's treats.
Speaker 3:Except for Maurice's treats.
Speaker 1:So you're saying no to that. That's just snacks, do you want that? I'm worried this dining thing is going to be too rough Before we get to it.
Speaker 2:I will concede to that, I'm being way easy, Enter it into the record. So Gibson Girl Ice Cream, Parlor Carnation Cafe and Plaza Inn Are the three on Main Street. Minnie wants all of those. I was thinking Gibson Girl. No way, there's no way she gets.
Speaker 1:Parlor Carnation Cafe and Plaza Inn are the three on Main Street Right, minnie wants all of those. I was thinking Gibson Girl. No way, there's no way. She gets Plaza Inn, absolutely not. That's a Mickey place, 100%. It's on Main Street. That's Mickey's house is Main Street no that's Walt's childhood home.
Speaker 2:Walt is Mickey's best friend. Mickey never went there. I think Roy was Mickey's best friend. Mickey never went there. I think Roy was Walt's best friend, plaza Inn is 100% Mickey. Misrepresentation of Walt Disney.
Speaker 1:That's a non-starter with Plaza Inn. Mickey gets Plaza Inn.
Speaker 2:Then Minnie gets Carnation Cafe Fair and Gibson Girl the ice cream parlor. Why two for one? You can have Casey's Corner, the little slushy.
Speaker 1:Why two for one? Why is this two for one? You can have Casey's Corner. Why two for one? Why is this two for one thing?
Speaker 2:Because Plaza Inn isn't just Plaza Inn, it's the one character breakfast in the park, correct? Yeah, it's a twofer, that is like for like Gibson Girl.
Speaker 1:Ice Cream Parlor. I didn't even have Gibson.
Speaker 2:So okay, that's fair, because I didn't have Gibson Girl on my radar it's something I wanted, mickey doesn't want gifts and you can have carne or uh casey's that's fine.
Speaker 1:I'll take that too with plaza and as long as I have plaza in, okay in there, because that's a total mickey place entered into the record.
Speaker 2:It was our first mini note of contention. Yep, mini gets carnation and gibson girl ice cream parlor, you get plaza in and casey's okay, let's talk about.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about the other places should, should we talk about Blue Bayou next?
Speaker 2:Okay. So all of French Quarter, all of the restaurants Blue Bayou, Cafe, Orleans, Tiana's Palace and I'm going to throw in the beignets on top of that.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:For that we're willing to give Mickey full control over Frontierland and Galaxy's Edge.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, you're bringing in other things we're not talking about yet. We're not even there yet.
Speaker 2:Well, that's part of my negotiation.
Speaker 1:I'm concerned what you're going to bring in when we start talking about lands. You're going to say you already have these two, I want these later, after you already discussed it in this portion. So I don't want that. I don't want to start discussing the other lands because you're going to say, oh, you already have this and you're going to throw a curveball at me at the end. I don't want that.
Speaker 2:I want to discuss that Diane. I don't want to trade or have lands, Blue Bayou, Riverbell Terrace, Cafe Orleans and Tiana's Palace.
Speaker 1:They have to be split up.
Speaker 2:They have to be split up.
Speaker 1:Tiana's and. Blue Bayou and New Orleans. They have to be split up. There's no way you get all three of those.
Speaker 2:Now I'm including Riverbell Terrace into this mix, because it's right there, okay. And then there's the little kiosk window.
Speaker 1:So those are the kiosk windows in Tiana's French Quarter. French Quarter, yes, right, no, I would say. So which is more important to you, blue Bayou or Tiana's?
Speaker 2:Blue Bayou is definitely the more elegant. It's more elegant of the two than diana's is that.
Speaker 1:Is that what you're tiana being a princess, it should have the, the feminine aspect to it. You're gonna, so then you're gonna go into. You're gonna say this now and then go into. You want, you want tiana's bayou adventure because of a princess yes, you can't do that? Yes, because it's not. Tiana's bayou adventure is of a princess. Yes, you can't do that. Yes, because princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure is not a princess ride, she is a princess. She's a princess on a ride, and Tiana's Palace is not a princess joint, it's a chef joint.
Speaker 3:I think it's fair to say that Minnie and Mickey don't have separate connections to the princesses. I think that they both have equal connections when it comes to even though the princesses are feminine. I don't think that Minnie is more connected to them than Mickey is, but she's more.
Speaker 2:she will make decisions that will align more with their thoughts on how the restaurant should be run.
Speaker 1:I disagree because Tiana's Palace is totally a fun, hip, cool joint to go to. I'll concede, blue Bayou is more elegant and Minnie could probably make better decisions there, but for Tiana's Palace there is no way. That's a fun, vibrant joint, that's all Mickey. Mickey is fun and vibrant. We've already established this.
Speaker 2:So there's the Mint Julep Bar, and the Mint Julep Bar is in Tiana's.
Speaker 1:Palace, the Royal Street, veranda.
Speaker 3:No, it is its own location. It's outside of I think. Well, it's in the seating area. It's in the same seating area as Tiana's Palace, Right.
Speaker 2:You have to walk, yeah, but you can take it to go.
Speaker 1:It's right outside, it is not, it's right outside of Tiana's Palace.
Speaker 2:It's connected and Blue Bayou and Royal.
Speaker 1:Street Veranda, for just for that you want. Yeah, because you have those two I have. That's not even two, it's one. It's a place inside, it's the same place.
Speaker 2:You have to pay separately. Those are two different. You order separately on the app. You have to approach them separately on the app.
Speaker 1:That's not. You have two sit down restaurants for me having a sit down restaurant and a little kiosk outside that's connected to the restaurant.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's fair, mainly because revenue would be so skewed toward.
Speaker 2:Now will it. Have you ever seen the line at the Mint Julep Bar?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but how much money are people spending on average at the Mint Julep Bar?
Speaker 2:5,000 people spending $10, $12 a piece, yeah, but how many people do you think would go into Cafe Orleans and Dubai?
Speaker 3:There's no line how many people would go into Cafe Orleans and Blue Bayou? There's no line.
Speaker 1:The two places you're saying are sit-downs with reservations, and so there is no line because they don't have a standby line.
Speaker 2:You're right. So we see the line is not relevant in this situation. They don't have as many people. They could, you don't know how many reservations they take a day. Those two locations have an equal amount.
Speaker 1:The record does not show profit margin and how many seats they use a day at Blue Bayou. This is not in the record. You have no idea how much money that place turns out every day.
Speaker 2:Okay, you can have Royal Street brand as well.
Speaker 1:No, I want Blue Bayou or Cafe Orleans. One of the two, you don't get both.
Speaker 2:Those are more the elegant, and that was your decision. Nope, she gets elegant, you get fun. So those are the fun ones. Cafe Orleans is not fun, it leans more towards elegance.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we can—.
Speaker 2:Appealing to the judge advocate Eli.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't think that they both should go to Minnie. I'm going to have to disagree with that.
Speaker 2:No, no, we're talking about rule of law here.
Speaker 3:My question before the court is— the elegancy is not a rule of law.
Speaker 2:Hold on. That was the precedent established.
Speaker 3:That's a precedent on the personality of Minnie and Mickey.
Speaker 2:And we were making—.
Speaker 1:We were also talking about how much we can make from having the part two.
Speaker 2:Hold on. We were making decisions based off of what you said Elegance versus fun. So is Cafe Orleans more elegant or is it more fun? I want a ruling, okay.
Speaker 1:I'll accept that ruling.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't think I'll accept that ruling. No, no, this is going to continue on. If this is going to continue on like this.
Speaker 1:if all fun stuff are going to be Mickey's, I'm good. Everything fun in the park is going to be Mickey's from now on after this park. Yeah, I think this is a fair.
Speaker 3:Anything elegant. If you're going to enter that you're going to say Cafe Orleans and Blue Bayou is just going to be elegant, then you can't expect Mickey not to have all the roller coasters.
Speaker 1:All the fun stuff's going to be Mickey's after this and almost all the rides.
Speaker 3:Because there's no elegant rides Really.
Speaker 2:I mean there is Rise of the Resistance. Isn't an elegant ride? No, it's not. It's much more fun than elegant, that's much more fun than elegant.
Speaker 1:It is fun. Is that what you want your decision to?
Speaker 3:be, let's move on. But here we go. Blue Bayou is also fun, okay, so here's the deal.
Speaker 2:So this is a court. Now do we need to have the judge recuse himself for bias?
Speaker 3:Bias Whoa.
Speaker 1:We're at Mississippi now Because I'm arguing now with we're going fun the rest of the time and elegant, that's our, that's our main focus. We just this, this case turned into that it's your guys decision I I'm all concede to that. Is it mickey's fun? Yeah, I think that blue bayou and kathy orleans are both definitely more elegant that's the basis of our decision so that's the argument you want to make then yeah, no for the rest of the time no, not for the risk.
Speaker 3:No, you can't just say it for one time. That's the problem. I can't. You can't just say it for one time and not another. See, that's the problem. You can't just use the argument for one thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will concede to that. If that's what we're doing the rest of the time, it's fun versus elegant. That's our thing, judge. I think that's fair.
Speaker 3:If you're going to set a standard, so you get both, but we're going fun versus elegant.
Speaker 1:the rest of this trial Okay, let's more fun.
Speaker 2:No claim to that.
Speaker 1:Okay, the Tiki Juice Bar. More fun, nope.
Speaker 3:Isn't that a snack? It's not elegant at all, I think that would be a snack. It is Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you already have that. Okay, I already have the snack, but there's Hideaway. Okay, the Hideaway Cafe, and oh, yeah, that's more fun?
Speaker 3:Which one's the hideaway cafe? There's nothing really fun or elegant about it.
Speaker 2:Which one? Yeah, it is. It's Baobabs. What's fun about it? It's just a place to eat. Who in the history of Disney has ever said, hey, let's go to Tropical Hideaway because it's fun? Yeah, or hey, let's go to Tropical Hideaway because it's elegant. You're right Is that the place with the skewers? No, that would be Bengal barbecue.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have no claim for that one. I didn't put Bengal barbecue as something.
Speaker 1:We can share Bengal barbecue. Honestly, I'm willing to share what we don't discuss. I think we should share.
Speaker 2:Okay, the only two that she would like Red Rose Tavern and Jolly Holiday. No claim on anything else.
Speaker 1:I agree that Minnie deserves Red Rose Tavern. I have that Minnie deserves Red Rose Tavern. I have that written down. That's something she needs. I totally agree, as I am not bitter at all and I didn't cheat. And Jolly Holiday. My person, my Mickey, didn't cheat and Jolly Holiday, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Jolly Holiday, I agree, and everything else. There's no claim. The barbecue Hungry Bear barbecue anything in Tomorrowland, in fact she would prefer that you take all of Tomorrowland's restaurants. I think, I think we should, so I think for the meaning of this court.
Speaker 1:As part of the divorce decree, we close Tomorrowland restaurants. Would we agree?
Speaker 2:Yes, minnie agrees to that decision, I think we'd make much more money if we don't have those.
Speaker 1:So I think, so I'd say what we don't talk about we 50't talk about it's like a split thing.
Speaker 2:So we're moving on. So we're moving on to Toontown, we're moving on to characters or lands. Toontown, the only thing that seems fair Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway shared custody, that's rides. Well, that's a ride in the land.
Speaker 1:So I thought rides and lands were separate.
Speaker 2:I kept them kind of the same, because it's a right in the land, so I thought rides and lands are separate.
Speaker 1:Uh, I kept them this is the same of the same, okay, because it's a major focus, okay, and each retains their own place of residence. They should retain their own place of residence. And I agree with the 50, 50 um on that one ride, yes, right, but not the land, the lands itself. I'm gonna, I have a, I have a motion for the court for the lands I came up with, we, my team, came up with what we think is an amicable agreement that I want to present to the court.
Speaker 1:Before that I'd like to ask. I've already had the floor.
Speaker 2:I'd like to ask the court for a recess so that we can have our Jose Cuervo tequila reposado shot.
Speaker 1:Yep, okay, totally agreed, cheers, not bad, okay, no, that was way better.
Speaker 2:No bite on that A little more harsh than the Hema door. I liked it. I liked that way better than the last one, not bad, okay.
Speaker 1:Anyway, you have the floor sir, thank you, that was a good recess. Thank you, yes, so I have a Mickey and Minnie split I would like to present Okay Already and a shared idea for lands an idea? Okay, so lands for Mickey, I have Main Street, tomorrowland, mickey's, toontown and Frontierland. For Minnie I have New Orleans Square, fantasyland, adventureland and Critter Country, while sharing the castle, the Disneyland Railroad and all the parades we would share.
Speaker 2:I think that sounds fair to everyone in the agreement, are we counting Matterhorn as part of Fantasyland? It is counted as part of Fantasyland. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1:It's not Tomorrowland.
Speaker 2:It's its own little land.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's Fantasyland. Okay, Should we treat that as separate, I'll concede that as far as this.
Speaker 2:Then I did have another question.
Speaker 1:I don't have Galaxy's Edge on here, though at all. I think we share Galaxy's Edge as just an agreement, because it's separate and newer and we really didn't have.
Speaker 2:Mickey's gets Fantasyland Uh-huh. Shared custody of the castle, correct.
Speaker 1:And the castle's, all the French Quarter, new Orleans Square, yes.
Speaker 2:New Orleans Square. Yes, new Orleans Square. Okay, adventureland, mickey gets.
Speaker 1:Adventureland and Critter Country and Critter Country, Mickey gets Main Street, Tomorrowland, Toontown and Frontierland. That's a fair offer you get-. I'll have Big Thunder, but you'll have.
Speaker 2:Indiana Jones. So I think Toontown, because of the strong presence of both of them, needs to be shared, the whole land. The whole land Now, with the caveat that meet and greet times have to be staggered so that they don't have to run into each other.
Speaker 1:So were you willing to give up? So would you give Mickey Critter Country for that? Because you have. I had four and four and then three shared things.
Speaker 2:I will. I mean, you don't want to give me. I will keep Critter Country.
Speaker 1:We'd have to share one of your lands too.
Speaker 2:Then you can have Galaxy's Edge Complete control over Galaxy's Edge. Yes, fair, yep.
Speaker 3:Done Good deal making guys.
Speaker 2:And then we keep Matterhorn as part of Fantasyland, matterhorn's part of Fantasyland, and who has Frontierland, I have Frontierland, you have Frontierland, so I have Big Thunder, that's okay. Okay, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:I almost presented this as a thing. I was going to present Eli with something to the court. I like to present Exhibit 1. Exhibit A.
Speaker 2:Now getting into the potential rides. So Tomorrowland, laying no claim to any part of Tomorrowland, except for the monorail, due to its elevated status and announcement with its horn of arrival. That befits Minnie arriving? No, he can have. So if Minnie gets the monorail, mickey can have the train, the railroad, the railroad. Got it Done, okay.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, I would rather have the train the railroad.
Speaker 3:The railroad Got it Done.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, okay, I like it. I mean, I would rather have the railroad.
Speaker 2:We felt it was more befitting of the two. I agree, two big rides like that, okay. And as far as Fantasyland, the Royal Theater and the Royal Hall as part of Fantasyland they're kind of like off to the left of the castle. So at all times, except for special events, can we say that? Except for?
Speaker 1:I don't think are there special? I don't have like dance parties in there they used to.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they currently do. Okay, they used to have saturday night. Okay, I'll concede.
Speaker 1:I'll concede to the that if you want mickey though it's going to be double the fee for mickey to come in and that's fine, we just part of the party. That's fine, we won't hire him. Well, you won't have anyone showing up, we'll have.
Speaker 2:Goofy and.
Speaker 1:I'll throw a bigger thing on Main Street at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, perfect, you're going to find out all the kids just be like, hmm, mickey, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that's usually how it's worked in history. Yeah, minnie's been way more popular over the years.
Speaker 2:So all of the princesses are part of.
Speaker 1:Princess, no we're just talking about land. We're not talking about people.
Speaker 2:But their interactions within Snow White. All of those.
Speaker 3:So are you saying they couldn't be part of the? You can't say that because Hold on?
Speaker 2:No, because, snow White, if A ride, they are part of a ride or a meet and greet in Fantasyland, you have to pay double if you want them to come into any part of your.
Speaker 1:That's not part of the deal. Well, neither is Mickey having to pay double my guy's? Mickey, you're not representing the princesses, but if I have to, pay him double. That's because it's my client.
Speaker 2:They are in.
Speaker 1:Bring one of your princesses' lawyers in here and we'll discuss that, but until then, no.
Speaker 2:Their IP is in Fantasyland, and if Minnie has control of Fantasyland, she has control of their IP. Nope, then I want Toontown, then we are.
Speaker 1:I want Toontown 100% Because I want all the people in Two Town, the people themselves have their own characters are a separate conversation they're not within the parks they're IP as part of that.
Speaker 3:I think that it would be fair to say, like the planned stuff. So during the time where they are like, have a meet and greet in Fantasyland or whatever, they can only have the meet and greets in Fantasyland. They can only walk around Fantasyland. So what? They can only have the meet and greets in Fantasyland, they can only walk around Fantasyland, correct? So what are you arguing for? Like the parade and stuff that goes down Main Street? He would have to do that.
Speaker 2:No, no, they would be part of it. That would be potentially shared.
Speaker 3:We haven't actually talked about those yet what would you want, the princesses?
Speaker 1:for anyway. No, anything in that land would be theirs.
Speaker 2:They can Right if they had a meet and greet, but the Royal Hall is where they meet and greet.
Speaker 1:Right, there would be, no, yeah, I agree with that 100%. I'm confused on what you're saying. Yeah, I think that was just a little confusion, but see this is Okay.
Speaker 2:So this is, but it doesn't go to characters. Going to your point, then that means I have free reign of any Star Wars characters.
Speaker 3:For what?
Speaker 2:For what? Whatever I want.
Speaker 3:What's that mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Star Wars characters. If I want to have Chewbacca, come visit Fantasyland or do something whatever.
Speaker 1:No, I agree with you. I misunderstood what you said. If there's anything in the land itself, the princesses are only in Fantasyland.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the park rules when it comes to them, right.
Speaker 1:Peter Pan's only going to walk through Fantasyland. He's not going to walk through Tomorrowland Exactly. So any meet and greets and walkthroughs are going to happen with you, but I thought you were taking control of all their parades and outside the land ideas.
Speaker 2:All the unwritten rules where characters stick to their own lands and there can't be two characters in the park at the same time is all going to stay. Now the in the circle in front of the castle. There have been princesses known to walk around in there. This this is why I got to the ip right but is?
Speaker 3:is that part of main street? I think you.
Speaker 1:I don't see why you share the castle yeah, that's part of the castle, so let's call that part of the castle main street, no, the circle in front of that little roundabout. Let's call Main Street after that circle, okay, because, yeah, let's just do that. Okay, for the sake of this argument.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because we're getting long.
Speaker 2:So Rivers of America? We didn't bring that up, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1:I closed it in Disney World in my mind.
Speaker 2:And I went there once with Eli in the past like 15 years. Canoes Tom Sawyer Island Riverboat, the Mark Twain Riverboat and the Columbia.
Speaker 1:Sailing Ship. Do you have a thought on that?
Speaker 2:So shared custody. Okay, because I don't think either one of us really want to. What about Harbor Galley? It's the one restaurant that would probably be. I'm just assuming that it's part of because of where it's at.
Speaker 1:It's part of rivers of america, harbor galley, let's just. I mean, I don't know, I don't, I don't have any thoughts on 50, 50, yeah, okay, okay, these are things I don't personally do, and I mean mickey didn't tell me in our conversation before this okay what he wanted.
Speaker 2:So so, french quarter, we have tiana's winnie the pooh, which we've. Winnie the Pooh should be in. Okay, now.
Speaker 3:Winnie the Pooh's in Critter Country, right, critter Country, but you have both of those anyway.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have all that anyway. Tiana's Pirates Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 1:We've already discussed the lands. Yes, okay, we're done with the lands.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was just. I'm clarifying for the court. Asked and answered.
Speaker 1:For rides. Okay, yeah, rides are all in the lands they're in. And it says I mean you can look, we'll concede to the Disneyland app for what land each ride is in, for what land.
Speaker 2:Whatever it says, it is.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we have left as characters.
Speaker 2:Okay, and we have special events.
Speaker 1:And special events, which I changed it up because I thought we were going to argue morning, afternoon and evening. That's all I did and then I expanded it after I text you today, so this is all new to me. I haven't had time to prepare your Honor.
Speaker 2:This specific times, right, that's not a valid excuse. I came up with some stuff.
Speaker 1:I have some ideas, okay Okay, so should we go times first, or characters? So, times being, I did special events. Okay, special events, I switched it up. Yeah Well, so I can start with saying that it's hands down that Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party goes to Mickey Because it's called Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party.
Speaker 2:Okay, Minnie gets the Christmas Candlelight Processional. Okay, fair Okay so there we go. That's divvied up. Okay, perfect, there we go. That's divvied up, okay, perfect.
Speaker 3:Now, for some reason, mickey decided to make the decision to lose Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party to Oogie Boogie.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, so it's not even part of the park.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:So it's no longer an issue.
Speaker 1:I thought you would say that, yeah, is that what something Minnie wants? Is the Oogie Boogie Bash. Nope, nope, because that's not part of Disneyland. So it's not part of the divorce? Oh, because it's a California venture, it is. It's not part of these divorce proceedings.
Speaker 2:Well, I just messed that one up Okay. So we have special event nights, so we have 90s night these are this year's ones and then Star Wars night.
Speaker 1:90s night looked on a side note. 90s night I wasn't sure of, but it looked awesome. See now. Okay, you disagree.
Speaker 2:I like the parade.
Speaker 1:It looks so cool, the parade.
Speaker 3:I watched the whole parade. Yeah, I watched the parade too.
Speaker 1:It looks so much fun. I'm a 90s guy.
Speaker 2:So then there's Star Wars night. What was the other one?
Speaker 1:Do they have dapper days there? No, that's not one of their official days.
Speaker 2:That's unofficial Pride Night was another one Pride Night. Shared custody for Pride Night, okay, okay, that's fine, that's fair. Minnie wants 90s night and Mickey can have Star Wars night.
Speaker 1:Fair, because I already have Galaxy's Edge, because they fit better with, I believe their personalities. I completely agree with that.
Speaker 2:Look how agreeable.
Speaker 1:I am this is crazy Sure.
Speaker 2:Whatever, I already mentioned, all meet and greet times must be staggered.
Speaker 1:So there's no interruptions. Did I already mention this earlier? Yeah, we're already sharing all parades. Yeah, you guys split parades, we split parades 50-50.
Speaker 2:Are we splitting all fireworks displays? I would say we'd have to. They're hit and miss Right.
Speaker 1:Like Fantasmic, it's a Mickey and Minnie show. I mean we still gotta put on a show, even though we're divorced. Even though they're divorced, they still got to be the celebrities, they are right, so they got to put on a good face for the public. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:So how about this? Mickey can have the afternoon parade, the evening parade, I believe there's two.
Speaker 1:Generally there's two Minnie gets Fantasmic and the firework show but how are you gonna have phantasmic when mickey's the star of phantasmic?
Speaker 2:he can come work and we'll pay him double wages.
Speaker 1:No, that's not fair. I say we either share it or I get fan, or mickey gets phantasmic because it's his show, it's mickey, mickey's a huge part of phantasmic and so she gets why would she get to full access of main street during the parades, the morning or the afternoon and evening parade? What's that mean?
Speaker 2:Explain more about what full access means she can take her floats down Main Street and go back. They start off up by Small World Right and then they cruise through Fantasyland. But then they get into your land.
Speaker 1:Right, mickey promises he won't put blockades up on Main Street. Okay, and that's what we want.
Speaker 2:We want full and unfettered access, right there won't be police tape To all lands, there won't be police tape.
Speaker 3:During the parade hours. The path that the parade takes is exempt from any land control.
Speaker 1:Okay, agreed, agre. Takes is exempt from any land control. Okay, agreed, agreed. Thank you, judge eli. Yeah so, and then we also have the, my two favorite people. When we were in in um disneyland and went to toontown to ride mickey and minnie's early, remember all the people standing in front we had to follow before we went. It was the last day we were there last time.
Speaker 1:We went right, it was the early entry to toontown we stood in front and I told the people this looks like Portland during. This looks like Portland Oregon during the riots. Yes, because they're all standing there in a line saying do not pass me. It was like that right.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And my other favorite one was what me and you encountered at Magic Kingdom, and I wish I knew the person's name, because he was an amazing cast member.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, remember that guy. He answered all the questions. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:We were standing right in front and about 10,000 people Nathan, Maybe 10,000 people walked up and asked where early entry was.
Speaker 2:And he answered that Can I get by?
Speaker 1:you to go to early entry. He answered the same question 10,000 times correctly, perfectly kindly.
Speaker 2:With a smile on his face.
Speaker 1:Like he was talking to the first person of the day.
Speaker 2:Okay, so jointly we will work with all unions for you added it, that just came to mind For cast members, for cast members, all cast member unions.
Speaker 1:That's a different, yeah, that's a different negotiation.
Speaker 2:But we will negotiate their contracts together.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:This will be shared duties.
Speaker 1:Right their lawyers will.
Speaker 2:Okay, right, we'll have us negotiate for them. You get Fantasmic, I get the parades, uh-huh, and then the fireworks show is shared.
Speaker 1:Perfect, we already shared the fireworks show yeah, okay, we already shared the. We shared parades earlier. That was already agreed to.
Speaker 2:On lands yeah, Well, it's, many controls the parades, but they have unfettered access. It doesn't matter what land they're in. That was the ruling by the judge.
Speaker 3:Okay, judge Eli, that's fine Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:What about further construction on the parks?
Speaker 1:I say that's tabled to later. Okay.
Speaker 3:Are you just splitting the?
Speaker 2:property up. I think further construction is dependent on the controller of that particular area. So you have Mickey has Tomorrowland, correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that the land you control is you control the construction on that area. Okay.
Speaker 1:But the bigger property Right, the.
Speaker 3:Disneyland forward, disneyland forward the property. Are you just splitting the property in half? Because we didn't even mention? That's up to Bob Iger Right, we didn't even mention resort hotels. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not what I'm asking, though, because they have so much land around the park anyway.
Speaker 1:That'd be for later litigation.
Speaker 2:There can. Only if Disneyland expands, it will be into the parking lot in between the parking garage and Disneyland Hotel. That is the only spot that it can grow Right, right.
Speaker 1:So we will negotiate that. Yeah, that's a good question though.
Speaker 2:That will be negotiated in a future time. That's a great thought.
Speaker 1:We're getting very long here and we still have characters to go through. Should we do that Characters, or should we do that?
Speaker 2:Characters, or should we so I say, do it quickly. I say shared custody of all characters. Well, not I can't say that I can go one for one because Pluto has to be with Mickey.
Speaker 1:We will allow you to have Pluto. And then you can have Daisy as your best friend, and then we can just share the rest.
Speaker 2:Clarabelle best friend, and then we can just share the rest claribel the cow. Okay, then I have oswald well, no, you have goofy and donald I do, okay, yes, well, they're your, they're your pals oh yeah, princesses, I get goofy. And donald, oh I would already okay and you get pluto right pluto donald goofy you have daisy and oswald, you get oswald how about chip and dale? They're fun if mini they're fun has all the princesses. Uh, you can have Chip and Dale. Yeah, we will agree to that.
Speaker 1:Well, except for Tiana, who's not in that land.
Speaker 2:Is that your land? She's a princess. Oh yeah, that's your land too. That's my land, that's my land, anyway, you're right.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's a really good deal, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now villains, sidekicks, shared custody, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And if anything comes up, litigation later.
Speaker 2:Yes, we can talk about that later, if we want to negotiate Right Any future. Rights of Marvel being held by a universal east of the Mississippi Right. We will deal with that when the contract expires.
Speaker 1:Perfect. I love this. I think we did good. We have to do our last shot. Yes, should we do that now? I didn't open it yet, so this would be a Three Amigos Añejo. You already have it poured.
Speaker 2:Three Amigos Añejo. I don't have it open yet I just twisted mine and pulled it off.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yes, yes, shot number three.
Speaker 1:I didn't know you already had it poured. Wow, you're quick on the draw.
Speaker 2:As you will all learn from our podcast, liquor helps you get through a divorce.
Speaker 1:This is the best looking bottle.
Speaker 2:It is. It's a very nice looking bottle. Cheers, cheers. Whoa Yowzers, that was strong. That hit the back of the nose. Yeah, it did Very tasty. Okay, Very yeah it did Very tasty Okay. Very good tequilas.
Speaker 1:This is why we usually try the drink before we start the podcast.
Speaker 2:So in case you're wondering Holy crap, el Himador Blanco, jose Cuervo Reposado and Three Amigos Añejo.
Speaker 1:I recommend the Three Amigos.
Speaker 2:And until next week, cheers.
Speaker 1:Cheers, cheers. Thank you, eli.
Speaker 2:Yep, thanks for having me Thank.
