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Does Walt Disney World Really Need Another Theme Park(?) with a Medina Mixer
The unexpected announcement of a new Disney park in Abu Dhabi has completely reshuffled the conversation around Disney's expansion strategy. What started as a discussion about whether Walt Disney World needs a fifth gate to compete with Universal's Epic Universe quickly transformed into an analysis of Disney's global theme park portfolio and future plans.
When weighing the potential benefits of a fifth Disney World park, several compelling points emerge. A brand-new park would provide the perfect canvas for fresh concepts and untapped intellectual properties that don't quite fit within the existing framework. It could showcase international Disney attractions that most American visitors never experience, while simultaneously helping to distribute the notoriously dense Magic Kingdom crowds. With Disney's vast land holdings in Florida, space certainly isn't an issue – they've already secured approval for a fifth major park in their long-term development plan.
However, the drawbacks are significant. Current estimates suggest building a Disney park of Tokyo DisneySea's caliber would cost upwards of $17 billion – a staggering sum even for Disney. Meanwhile, all four existing Disney World parks desperately need updating, from the chronically outdated Tomorrowland to the half-day experience that Animal Kingdom often becomes for ride-focused visitors. Adding another park would also extend the typical Disney vacation to potentially 9-10 days, making the trip financially impossible for many families already stretching their budgets.
The Abu Dhabi announcement represents an exciting compromise. This new international venture allows Disney to flex their creative muscles with cutting-edge technology and immersive environments without diverting resources from much-needed improvements at Walt Disney World. There's speculation this Middle Eastern park could feature the most impressive Tomorrowland ever designed, potentially rivaling Tokyo DisneySea as Disney's crown jewel.
For Disney fans, the future looks bright whether they're planning to visit Florida or dreaming of international adventures. Rather than stretching themselves thin with a fifth Florida gate, Disney appears focused on maximizing the potential of their existing parks while simultaneously creating something truly revolutionary halfway around the world. What Disney innovation are you most excited to experience?
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Hello and welcome to Cheers to Ears, where today we're enjoying a Medina mixer that you can find at Spice Road Table. See, I still messed that up. I had it all written down. How do I do this? At Spice Road Table, in the Morocco Pavilion at Epcot's World Showcase, and the Medina mixer has Star African Rum, vanderhum, tangerine Liqueur and Cranberry Juice and it's sold for $16.50. But we didn't really make that even close.
Speaker 2:No, we so attempted. So Star African Rum is a Florida distillery and it's great rum and it's in a lot of drinks, especially it's in a lot of the drinks at Animal Kingdom. But you can't find it anywhere in Washington, oregon, at a liquor store I think the closest is California. So we went with a Captain Morgan's White Rum, which I think I needed for another drink anyway. So we just went with that one and I couldn't find tangerine liqueur. And this was a day of through a change into the plan.
Speaker 1:Right, disney threw us a curveball today, on the day we were recording this.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I went looking for tangerine liqueur. Couldn't find it because our big liquor store burned down or had some sort of issue, so I had to go to the smaller one and it's just whatever you can get. So we just put Cointreau, so it was a sweet orange liqueur that was a prohibition sentence.
Speaker 1:you just said what Our liquor store burned down.
Speaker 2:Welcome to prohibition. Cheers to Airstyle. So it has a shot and a half of the white rum, because I accidentally poured two shots when I was doing the second one. So I thought, okay, this is just going to be a little strong.
Speaker 1:Right, so you just made it better.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So a shot of Cointreau, a shot and a half of white rum and then a couple of shots worth of, so about three ounces of cranberries Right. So alcohol forward. Very tasty.
Speaker 1:Very tasty. I love the orange taste. I mean I imagine the tangerine taste would be probably better, Probably. I know maybe I really like this drink, though, as we made it, yeah, with the extra half shot and the orange liqueur.
Speaker 2:And the orange probably would have come through even better without maybe that extra half shot. I don't know. Nah, We'll take it Either way. Not a bad drink at all.
Speaker 1:No. So we had this drink because it served at the Morocco Pavilion. Yes, and Disney threw a huge curveball from our topic today. We already had this topic planned. We did.
Speaker 2:We were talking about whether or not Disney, so with the recent, in fact, it opened today, didn't it?
Speaker 1:May 22nd, I think.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought it was May 7th.
Speaker 1:Okay, may 27th the one part we're never going to probably discuss on our show. Yes, that every Disney podcast likes to discuss now. Yes, and they go there and we'll still go there, yeah. But I don't think it's going to be a topic of our show, because we're not a universal show.
Speaker 2:No, we're not a universal show and we never will be. But since that came out, there's been a lot of rumors about disney adding a fifth gate. And does disney need a fifth gate? So we were like, well, let's, let's talk about that, right?
Speaker 1:the quick answer is no, but we'll talk about it but for some the quick answer is yes, because they need a new sparkly park they do, they do but they threw us a sparkly park curveball today they did so.
Speaker 2:It's mural is the company they're partnering with. But there is a new international disney theme park that's going to be built in abu dhabi, united arab emirates, and I have really high hopes for that one. Do you? I think so. Here's, of course, it's going to have a aladdin land. It has to okay, I don't think that they couldn to have an Aladdin land. It has to. Okay. I don't think that they couldn't have an Aladdin-themed land. Okay, but I think it could have the best Tomorrowland of any park in any country and I think, overall, it's going to rival Tokyo DisneySea as the best park in the world because of the money that I believe that they'll dump into it. Right, yeah, I think they'll drop billions into this.
Speaker 1:We'll see. We'll see when more info comes out. We got such little info today. It's just yeah that we both thought it was a total joke. I looked, I was watching their mouths as they moved, yeah. To see if it was like AI generated and I like, I like was looking up.
Speaker 2:I got like four different confirmations before I thought it was real. Yeah, I, I looked up a couple, but I looked up. The first one I saw was like what, what's he doing? Not that this particular source is untrustworthy, but it was out of the ordinary for him to talk about news. And then immediately I saw like disney food blog and all ears they.
Speaker 1:They both in disney dose and I saw the disney announcement first thing this morning.
Speaker 2:Oh did you, yeah, where they were talking about it that's why I was thinking is this computer generated yeah where they're making these guys talk because they could.
Speaker 1:They do that. It looks so real. Oh, they do. The person's really saying the words.
Speaker 2:So they actually did that with Shadur Sanders, the quarterback, and Dave. He sent me this link and he was refusing to play for the Browns in this and I was like Dave, that's AI, that's not real.
Speaker 1:He probably will never play for the Browns oh, he probably won't. You have to be really good to do that, yeah, to be really good to do that, yeah, and I'm I'm on the side. This is not an nfl podcast, no, but I'm so on the side of he's not as great as people say.
Speaker 2:Okay, but here we go, yeah I'm on. I watch way too much college football yeah, so I think we'll get to that, but let's first start off. Okay, let's talk. Does disney need a fifth park to compete with universal?
Speaker 1:right and we didn't talk about how we we organize this. I did pros and cons, okay, I've even do. Even I went like totally like what's the good idea, what, why and why not? And then I then I gave my thoughts afterwards okay, I totally think, okay, what how?
Speaker 2:did you do it? My initial I say no and then I'm just kind of open to discussion over and I have my reasons why I think no, they don't need to do a fifth park Right Now. They could, but I don't think that they need to.
Speaker 1:Right, so I was no last night when I first started thinking about it. And then I really contemplated over it, and then I came up with my final decision today, which I'll get to at the end.
Speaker 2:And would it be great if they opened another park. Sure you know that just extends at least another day the vacation to disney world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk about the pros first. Okay, yeah, so my pros were they would get there'd be new concepts and fresh experiences. Yes, that they whole new ideas. Right, they can all. They can just start from scratch with something and build it up. Right, it would help spread out the crowds, it would Between the parks, right.
Speaker 2:Right, we're only talking pros right now not the negatives of the pros, right, yes, yes, yes, these are the pros right, I have.
Speaker 1:It's an exciting response to that other park just north that they're opening. Yes, that I'm not going to mention For them building their third gate. Right, I'm not going to mention for them building their third gate, right, yeah, third gate at that at the park up North, yeah. And then my only other one I had was, um, they had the land, they have lots of land.
Speaker 1:They have plenty of land and it's it's already approved to build a fifth park. It is approved, it's in there. It's in their plan to have five parks total and like five total minor parks, they have the two water parks. Yes, they can open three more minor parks in a plan. I think Disney just had that in the future plan just to have it there.
Speaker 2:One fifth gate and three more minor parks.
Speaker 1:Right is what they have in their overall 10-year plan.
Speaker 2:So they have 10 years to start building a fifth park if they want A fifth gate, okay, if they wanted to, I think they just threw that in just in case.
Speaker 1:So they park a fifth gate, okay, if they wanted to. I think they just threw that in just in case they wouldn't have to revisit. Yeah, if they want to do and go through all the stuff that was.
Speaker 2:Those were my only pros to opening and there'd be more, any more good reasons why you know this could and again, there's cons to this pro but pro where they could hit on ip that either it could be fresh IP where it creates brand new IP where movies could come out of it, or something like that. It could be creating brand new IP, or it could tap into existing IP that doesn't quite fit or would be a stretch to fit it into other parks.
Speaker 1:Right, or they could. Another pro that I just thought of maybe would be what the other park did and a bunch of non-ip stuff. Yes, they can make a full park of stuff that's not disney at all. Right, like new disney stuff. Like when disneyland was first made uh-huh, a lot of stuff was not a disney movie, a disney thing at all. Like when disneyland right first made.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah well because they didn't have a have enough stuff. Yeah, they could. They could invent new, they could invent new ip and then work from there and they just went with fantasy land, right, and tomorrow land.
Speaker 2:So it's coming up with new land concepts too, but it could be new concepts that they haven't touched on. Now they could go and just make a copy of, and that's getting more into the pros. But it could copy really popular lands in other countries that US citizens may never go to. It's an opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1:I'll say it that way Right, it's an opportunity to create lands or IP Tokyo and Shanghai and Paris, yeah, and Hong Kong, right Like the new Paris. What's the new ride they just announced?
Speaker 2:not, too long ago, the Lion King raft ride, yeah that looks awesome yeah. Yeah, a little tough in the winter.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one's going to be seriously just a summer ride, right? You know, they just don't have the climate.
Speaker 1:Outside of Paris, I've seen snowstorms not big snowstorms, but snow on the ground at Disneyland Paris. So yeah, that's a good idea too, that wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 2:It's a chance for new IP Right. It's a chance for untapped IP Yep and that could potentially be great.
Speaker 1:Not horrible Not horrible yeah. Any other pros?
Speaker 2:No, I think that's the biggest pro for me is untapped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and for people like us, more Disney's better.
Speaker 2:More Disney's just a pro Right.
Speaker 1:But we're actually a minority in the Disney fandom. Yeah, because we're like diehard. That's our primary thought when we wake up in the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, when's my next Disney trip, right?
Speaker 1:Or what are the lines like right now? Yeah, like you just looked before we came in here, I looked, but I was looking all day yesterday.
Speaker 2:Yesterday they were kind of long, today they're not bad Common conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we go into cons guns yes, okay so my cons are lots of updating is already needed in the parks. Yes, they have now the current parks need you can go to every park and say how much updating is needed. Yeah, I mean, you just go around epcot, right, they could do a total, not a reimagining, but making figment cooler, that right can be so much cooler, I know those are minor, but they could do them. Yes, but they still cost money. It still costs money. Right, we're still.
Speaker 1:They still cost money right and should we add up all the little stuff they could do. Yeah, it costs a bunch of money, right and doesn't, doesn't we need, we need a. Well, that's my final thoughts. But yeah, there's so many, there's so many updates they could do so another one.
Speaker 2:yeah, it's. Everything is geared towards IP. They just want to sell current IP, so is there enough IP left to create an actual LAN that couldn't fit someplace else or that hasn't already? So a big thought was Villains of Villains Park. Well, they have Villains LAN now, so is there enough IP left?
Speaker 1:So that's a con. I think Villains Park was one of my thoughts for the Disney forward in Anaheim. Yeah, was to add a Villains Park. It's the third park. The third park that's still a great idea, it is. Yeah, it could be smaller. Mm-hmm. Right, yeah, it could be. So that's just updating, just refurbishing things, updating, making everything new and nicer.
Speaker 2:Yes, they could do a lot of that in the parks and you know, up till now they've ignored Tomorrowland In both parks and I have to say Tomorrowland is the worst land in both parks.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's by far the worst thing in Disneyland.
Speaker 2:And this is why, like I think you know, the one in Abu Dhabi that they're going to build, why I think Tomorrowland is going to be incredible there, because I think the technology is going to be a highlight of what they want to do. But going back to these parks, I don't know. There is there's just a lot that they need to fix with the current parks before I think that they should be building a new park, and they currently have a lot on the docket. What was the other? Oh, so does a fifth park. Does that push out and make a trip there untenable?
Speaker 1:That's my next thing, okay, so yeah, it could create. It could create too few people in the parks too, for disney, right, first of all, right, were they? We would like less people in the parks, of course.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, right, but disney wouldn't I would like it, but it was just me and you. Yeah, but disney wouldn't like that.
Speaker 1:No, they would hate that day because they're not making the money right. They wanted to be this the certain full yes, there's a certain amount of people they want in the parks to still make money right, yeah, and to still make it a good experience for us. It's not that they want so many people in there that we're not having a good time. They do want us to have a good time and come back and that's the whole idea is you need to have.
Speaker 2:It's a balance between. It has to be good enough time right, the people come back, but full enough to where all the bills are getting paid and the shareholders are making money and they can still spend all the money they do on fireworks parades all the money they spend they spend so much money on stuff for us.
Speaker 1:Yes, right that we don't. We don't think of that. Well, we do, but most people don't think of that, yeah, when they're're thinking about their Disney experience and how much money it costs to go there.
Speaker 2:There's a reason Fireworks are millions and millions and millions of dollars a year.
Speaker 1:And so are all the employees. They have to make your experience as good as it is.
Speaker 2:There's lots of employees and it's easy to find them. There's so many that I don't think that they're necessarily stressed with being.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there's examples where they get stressed out. Of course, those are the negative things that people throw out there, which I hate the negative things people say about disney employees overall, the service industry is hard enough to work in any way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with customers, but overall, right, I say they, they are over employed as far as they have more cast members to help people than they could probably, and I think other parks get away with. Yes, so it could be a lot worse, right, and, and they do a really good job. So, but when I say untenable, I would say magic kingdom really is a two-day park. That's, that's. That's my next part of it. Yeah, and so, exactly, if that's a two-day park and let's say you do one day in each of the other parks and let's say you want to go to the, the water park and you want to have an open day, well, now it's pushing to.
Speaker 2:You might have to take a nine-day vacation, right to hit everything. You throw another park in there. What that? Four, five, six, seven days in the park, so that's seven days of non-stop go, go, go, go, go, right. And if you throw in a couple of travel days front and back of that, it's even less relaxing, whereas now I think you have a little more flexibility.
Speaker 2:If you want to go to a water park and we typically don't, someday I probably will, just to check out one of the water parks. But I like having that open day Now, granted, for some guys like, when Dave goes, open day means he's going to hang by the pool the whole time, and that's cool. For me and you, an open day means I'm going to go checkatoga springs because I haven't that's the one resort I haven't walked around yet. Right, but I'm gonna go check out other resorts, just to walk around other resorts. So I'm still go, go, go. But for the people who need a break, or people with young kids, this is pushing it out to where it might be too long of a of a vacation to add another park.
Speaker 1:Correct. Yeah, that's what my other point was. On that same note is it's just too long. Yeah, like if you only go once in your lifetime, you're going to spend two weeks there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to see everything it would take two weeks vacation just to go to Disney. Two weeks is a family for $8,000, $9,000, $10,000 vacation Right.
Speaker 1:Two weeks is a family of four, eight nine $10,000 vacation Right, potentially Right, and so on the flip side of that, like I'm going to Disney next Monday, I'm going to Disneyland for two days, not even full days, because I arrive at 1030 in the morning the first day and then we'll be there for two days. I mean, disneyland does stay open until midnight, but I don't have a problem, I, I'm gonna see everything I want to see in two days, you can right, but I bet I do it all the time. You do it all the time. Right, but you need, I mean, three days. A normal family, a average family, can see all both parks.
Speaker 1:I think they have three days yeah, three days is four days if you've never been there and you have kids, right maybe. But three days is a good like if you go there every few years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three days is perfect, yeah, three days is plenty to have lightning lane and you manage it correctly. And now that they don't have any shows or anything anymore, it's even easier to do because it's just a lot of rides.
Speaker 1:Right, and like I go to Disneyland so often that I'm not even worried if I don't see something. Yes, it doesn't like I'm not going there just to write, I'm going there for other reasons. Yeah, then, writing rides. So if I, if I rode like two rides each day, hey, you know what? I think I'd be fine, I should try fried chicken, yes I know that's.
Speaker 2:I was like that's. If you come back and you have not eaten their plaza in fried chicken, I'm probably gonna say bad words to you. I thought about that the other night after you told me you were going. I'm like you better try the fried chicken this trip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I should. I'm going to be all by myself too, so I totally should. I also have two days by myself.
Speaker 2:I could do it at any time, so it's one of those, and I thought about this with my upcoming Disney World trip. I've been a few times and I know I will be going more, and while you hate cutting out time for a meal, for rides or shows and wanting to do everything and stuff, part of it is, I want to do stuff. That's new, and that's the thing. Look at it this way the fried chicken is something new, right, so carve out time for the fried chicken. But getting back to our, does disney world need a fifth right? I have one more con.
Speaker 1:Okay. It would just simply cost too much money. For how much disney would want to spend on a park? I mean, we're talking north, northwards of 17 billion dollars. Oh, 17 billion right to make a good park, if they so, if they were to take Tokyo DisneySea right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Here's what I read today. If they took Tokyo DisneySea built the same exact park in Orlando, it would cost over $17 billion.
Speaker 2:And with their plan, with $60 billion that they plan on spending, that's a third of that, right, and that's not taking into account cruise ships, disneyland and upgrades and Disneyland forward. Yeah, right, and that's not taken into effect cruise ships and upgrades and Disneyland forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, so they plan on spending about $17 billion total at Disney World over the next so many years? It wasn't part of their plan, right?
Speaker 2:So they'll take all of it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or over it Over that. If you were making new concepts, new rides, right, that's just taking exactly Tokyo DisneySea and rebuilding it Now did you happen to see the numbers of what Epic Universe cost. I don't recall. I thought of that today. I read it while they were building it.
Speaker 2:Okay, wherever, that place is One of the things, and I watched for that other part, I watched a lot of theney influencers going to the other park all of them are going.
Speaker 1:Right, they're all going, I know so like I could have went, but I could have went last week, but I didn't they.
Speaker 2:One of the things, though, is I'm looking around at the land. Yeah, when disney does a land like, when you walk into black spire outpost, you feel like you are in a land the rocks, the trees, you feel like they've recreated a human land. When I was looking at this other park and I love that we're doing that they put out cutouts of trees and they put out cutouts of decor.
Speaker 2:It's not. They don't put real trees in there and they did in some aspects. But it doesn't feel like you've walked into a land, fantasy land. You walk in with all of the buildings and it feels like you're walking into a land that you saw in Snow White or Cinderella or in those movies. Okay, they really got this. Now, the only one that really felt like that was the new Harry Potter, the Ministry of Magic, all of that. Now that really and, hands down, they do fantastic with feeling like you're walking into the human version of the land that's in the book or the story. But with some of their other lands it just felt cartoonish and it didn't feel cheap. It didn't feel like you were walking into a human version of Mario Land.
Speaker 1:I think Mario Land, they did well. Now they did it well. It looks like you're walking into a video game. I think it truly looks like that. I think Mario Land, they did well. Now they did it well. It looks like you're walking into a video game. I think it truly looks like that. I think it's pretty cool it does.
Speaker 2:But to me that Disney, the way Disney does lands like when you walk into Cars Land you feel like you're walking into a human version of like you would expect to see lightning McQueen driving down the road talking to you, correct, in Cars Land it feels human, it doesn't feel video game, it doesn't feel cartoon and with the other park, some of their, a lot of their lands either, it's disjointed and it doesn't make a lot of sense, which I think they corrected a lot of that with, uh, the new park. But it doesn't feel like the human version of that land. It feels like and I don't necessarily I don't like that as much personally, okay, and I don't think that's as expensive and that it that is a to the con of it's just too expensive for disney to do dis, to do things correctly, like you walk around Animal Kingdom, and it felt like Asia, africa, you know, in Kanto well, puebla, esperanza, it's not in Kanto land, although we're always going to call it in Kanto land.
Speaker 2:But when you walk around Puebla Esperanza it's going to feel like you're in south america. They do a really good job of this. Feels authentic, they do and I think that's expensive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm still on the. I mean, if you're gonna play the video game aspect, though, shouldn't you look like you're going into a video game?
Speaker 2:instead of a human version of the video game, but it feels like a cheap version, maybe when I look at it.
Speaker 1:I gotta rewatch stuff again with that on my mind and I haven't seen the villains area, the what they call it, dark universe or yes, whatever that portal thing I haven't seen that one at all.
Speaker 2:yet frankenstein, dracula, all of those guys, it's like the old. I don't think I've seen any videos on that. Some fresh baked Did a very good walkthrough, because it's like an hour and a half long.
Speaker 1:I have so not watched Idiom my favorite podcasters. That went there Because they're going against Because he's the best Disneyland person ever.
Speaker 2:He is For Disneyland.
Speaker 1:He's the best, but he went to florida. Come on, we don't need you there. Yeah, I'm serious, don't need, I want it. I want my disneyland news from him, and people don't do disney world very well. I mean he. There's no one like him at disney world that I've ever found.
Speaker 2:No that good, but see, he's, I like his. He's got a different perspective, and so I like his. He's got a different perspective, and so I like him when he goes to Knott's Berry Farm. I did watch that one actually, so yeah, I don't, I can't remember if I've seen him go to Universal Hollywood or like Magic Mountain, but he makes me interested. I think he makes me more interested in going to these places more than anybody else, because he's our people, he's more like us.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I want to go to the park with him every time I watch him yeah, yeah, although he'd have to sit by and wait and watch you go on the thriller rides, because those aren't his thing, right? Yeah, and so watching his, because he's very thorough, because he'll take an hour and a half and do a couple videos to hour and a half long videos.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, His talk. So on a we're going off on a different tangent, on a different podcast person, but his thing on haunted mansion when it reopened it kept going and going, he kept talking about it. He got more excited, more excited as he was talking.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I have a summary of what I think of the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I have a summary of what I think of the whole thing. Okay, okay, so you're going? No new parks needed. I don't think it's needed.
Speaker 2:Okay, I would be happy if a new one was built. Right, but I don't think in Orlando it's needed to compete with Universal. I think the upgrades that they're doing the only upgrade that I'm kind of disappointed that they're not doing is Tomorrowland. But the upgrades that they're doing are going to improve the parks enough where I think they're good for years. Yeah, if they decide to do Fifth Gate, hey, I'm happy Because I know they're going to do it well and what it'll be is they'll do it one way and then, after about 10 or years, they'll start changing it right, figuring out oh, people didn't quite want that, they wanted this. But, that being said, I don't think they needed to compete so, surprise, surprise everyone, I 100% agree with you.
Speaker 1:Like always, my thoughts are just to make the current parks better. Yeah, that's what they should concentrate on yeah all that other money spin and just give us better rides. Different, different stuff like hollywood studios meet needs, like more oomph to it it like needs something else. I don't know what that is now will monsters inc.
Speaker 2:Maybe enough, maybe we'll have to see. It's a show, it's a great looking ride. It looks great and potentially a sushi spot.
Speaker 1:Don't know if that's enough, but we'll see. We'll see. But maybe it needs one more thing after that.
Speaker 2:It probably To make it like hit. The courtyard over on the other side is kind of blah. But now that they've got aerials going in there or it will be soon in time for my trip, Ho will be soon in time for my trip, Hooray, hooray and the villain show in time for my trip. I'm just going to miss the last of the Muppets. Very disappointed there. But yeah, that might help that area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what Hollywood Epcot needs, like refurbs all over the place. I think they could update a lot of stuff, especially in the entrance, all the stuff in the when you first walk in. They could just do, they could just upgrade stuff, right, then they then they totally need, totally need another, another pavilion, like one more country in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe, as we're talking about Morocco, update Morocco a little bit with like like something more like a ride or so I something, I think it was, it was better, but then it the pandemic kind of killed it yeah so I don't know if they were giving it up, though yeah, I thought I'd heard some rumor that, like they were gonna phase it out, phase it out, which india should just step in, and that's what you've been saying right, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I think they need to do something else with Morocco or refurbish it somehow, yeah, and then add another country to the pavilion where there's just more.
Speaker 1:There needs to be a couple more rides in there they need to build.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what Disney needs to do Disney, if you're listening, pay attention here. This is a great idea. You need to find a German heritage folk tale, buy it and do a movie out of it. And then you have the space, because it was a planned ride in the Germany pavilion, and then you just need to build the ride there yeah, because it wouldn't interfere with anything, because it's all behind there and then, as soon as it's all ready, you just knock down that wall.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and then you did like by Doctor who. Oh, there you go, and then put that in the English pavilion.
Speaker 2:You know they were going to do a ride there for Mary Poppins. I think that'd be okay, right.
Speaker 1:Well, they have all those Monty Python shirts in the English pavilion.
Speaker 2:Oh, they do. There's a ride, that's right.
Speaker 1:Monty Python, there's a ride. Eli's new favorite ride, the Monty Python coaster, and then Animal Kingdom. I think, even though they're building the new land there, it needs more. It needs two more lands, two full more lands in Animal Kingdom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't know what they are. I didn't go that deep into things, but it just needs more right.
Speaker 2:It's such a cool park. If they added two, two more lands all of a sudden, animal kingdom would be a day, a two-day park. I think it'd be a full day park. I think it'd be a two-day park even with pueblo esperanza. Now it'd be two-day park because it's just such a great park to walk around. It really is.
Speaker 1:It depends on how many rides they added so let's think about that.
Speaker 2:They could do some sort of middle Eastern land, of course. What animals, you know? You got to think of the animals Because they have, like India, asia, but is there Australasian?
Speaker 1:They could even do the Zootopia land there. They could they have in Shanghai.
Speaker 2:They could that kind of thing Because they have the Zootopia show. Right, yeah, there's just so many. I mean a show, right, yeah, there's just some. I mean, oh well, there's like the antarctic land too, right, which is a little hard to believe when you're in sweltering weather they can even do something.
Speaker 1:The national geographic, oh, where it's like they could do something right, where it's cool, and edutainment, edutainment yes, yeah, because right now you know people talk about being a half-day park.
Speaker 2:It's a half-day park if all you're interested in is rights. Yeah, because you now you know people talk about being a half-day park. It's a half-day park if all you're interested in is rides yeah, because you go, there's right, that's all.
Speaker 1:If all you do is go on a couple, the few rides that are there, you just leave. Yeah, right, we could have done if we rode every ride once. We could have left at like 10 am. Yeah, when chris and I went right, but shows right, and then, right, you want to ride ever. It's more, more than once.
Speaker 2:And the drawing out at Rafiki's Planet Watch. So heading out there on the train and doing all the animal walkthroughs, it's easy to do a full day there at that park. Even now with the Dinoland shutdown, I think we'll be fine with doing a full day there, right, right, but some people it's not the deal. So let's talk about, let's move into the one in Abu Dhabi, the new park, okay, and, like I said, I think this has the potential to take the crown from Disney Tokyo Sea as the best park in the world Because of the amount of money.
Speaker 1:Right, I didn't like zoom in on the drawing and I didn't really either, but whatever that castle thing was they have, I mean, I don't even know what that is yeah.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, I think so. No place has Tomorrowland where their park icon is. I think there's a chance, and they should be looking at that, to make the best Tomorrowland in the world. I think it would be so cool.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:You know, like I said, my idea with AI, character meet and greets, so where you come up to the screen and you're talking to a character and it's responding in time to what you're asking, or to little kids and stuff, and you can meet any character you want. You know all the screens. You just punch in which character you want and it pulls up that character and then you know a little kid can just start talking and it responds. So, utilizing AI, you know electric car vehicles for the Autopia of some sort, or you know, there's just so much that they could be doing. Yeah, a flight to Mars type of ride, but a cool one, not flight to Mars 1960.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool. The flight to Mars 1960, pretty cool. I like Mission Space.
Speaker 2:It's not horrible. Was that to Mars Mission Space? Yeah, orange Mission, yeah, oh, is that why Orange? Pretty cool, I like mission space. The it's not horrible, was that? Was that to mars mission?
Speaker 1:space yeah orange mission, yeah oh, is that why orange okay?
Speaker 2:well see, I'm never writing right. You're never right because I'm never going to vomit on that right so yeah, so who knows?
Speaker 1:I'm excited to see what the next steps are, what they come up with, what the rumors are going to be all the talk. It's something else to talk about. It's going to take the discussion from the other park away a little bit. Yeah, the park up north Of Disney.
Speaker 2:World.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Well, it's north of all the Disney parks in America.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, is it further south than Anaheim?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's further south than Anaheim. Yeah, it's so weird. It's so weird thinking about how, where Florida is.
Speaker 2:It was where florida is. It was yeah, yeah, you know. And then there's a whole new american heartland park. I'm actually looking forward to that one. Yeah, I'm gonna go, because I was just in oklahoma for the first time. Okay, second time. Technically, I drove through oklahoma at one point in my life and, yes, I went back to oklahoma and let me, let me just tell you that was odd. Oh yeah, not the people. Oh, the people are odd too. Possibly, possibly they are. I have limited interaction.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was just okay. You call this a road and it's a pothole-filled dirt road and the roads are horrible and it says, oh, take this next left, and the next left is like a muddy bog of a road. It's like that's not a road, right, apple Maps.
Speaker 1:Waze.
Speaker 2:Right, let's get our act together. It was scary on some of those roads, but I'm looking forward to that park Go Sooners, because I think that was it's trying to capture the initial what Walt tried to do with Disneyland, right?
Speaker 1:But it'll be the 50s instead of the 20th century. And our other new park news the comedian Nate Bergazzi. You know who that is no. 10th century. And our other New Park news the comedian Nate Bergazzi. You know who that is? No, he's a very famous comedian. Okay, big on Starlight Live. Look him up.
Speaker 2:He's great. Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:We don't know Nate Bergazzi. He is amazing. He does family-friendly comedy. That's just funny. Okay, he's one of Chrissy's favorites. She's seen him a couple times, I think I'm not sure we had tickets once. I forgot to request it off work, so her and Eli went. But he announced on an interview the other day that he wants to open a theme park. Oh, he wants to rival Disney with his theme park and he didn't say how. What was his theme? He doesn't have a theme yet. Okay, it's going to be cool, he said. But Nate Bregazzi's theme park, I bet, would be hilarious. It'd be a constant Monsters Inc laugh floor. You finished your drink, I did, and you have a major drinking problem and a condensation all over my shirt.
Speaker 1:Now we both finished our drinks during this episode. We did, which doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 2:And there's a good sign that you want to try the Medina Mixer At Spice Road Table. Spice Road Table in the Morocco Pavilion Next time you're at Epcot Looks like they have some delicious food.
Speaker 1:We need to have another drink or something right now, because ours are gone, so we shall say cheers, cheers.
