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Disney Hot Takes With A Keoke Coffee
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The fastest way to reveal your true Disney opinions is to put a hot, boozy coffee in your hands and hit record. We start by tasting a Kyoke Coffee inspired by Tiffins at Disney’s Animal Kingdom, breaking down the ingredients, the $15.50 price point, and the simple question that matters most for Disney World drinks: would we actually order this in the parks, or are there better picks next door at Nomad Lounge?
Then we spiral into Disney hot takes, and it turns out we’re not even using the same definition. One of us goes for controversial, real-world changes like retiring aging attractions, fixing dead zones, and turning the Disneyland Monorail into actual transportation. The other goes for zero-evidence theories that somehow feel believable, like fireworks that wipe your memory of what you spent or park music designed to make you forget your feet hurt.
Along the way we pitch a retro-futuristic Tomorrowland with mid-century atomic age style, argue about ride “shelf life” and constant reimagining, and vent about Epcot festivals that last so long they stop feeling special. We also take aim at snack hype, line indecision, and the weird maze energy of Disney shopping. Finally, we get serious about resort planning, big hotel ideas, and why a third gate at Disneyland Resort just doesn’t work.
Listen, then email us your best argument, your spiciest Disney opinion, or your own hot take. If you like the chaos, subscribe, share the show, and leave us a five-star review.
Kyoke Coffee Setup And Price
SPEAKER_00Today we're trying a Kyoke coffee from Tiffin's restaurant, and we're giving you all the Disney hot takes. Welcome to Cheers to Gears. Okay, we're back. All right, so Kyoki Coffee. Kyokie coffee. It's made with Kahua, brandy, dark cream de cocoa, and Indonesian blend coffee. And it's at Tiffin's restaurant at Disney's Animal Kingdom, and it's $15.50. That's not bad. We almost get to the price. We're like, that's where we judge it the most. Yeah, it really is.
SPEAKER_01It's you know, we don't even think, well, would I spend $15.50 on this? It's just, oh, okay. Well, that's three bucks cheaper than the last drink we had. So hot takes. We decided to do a hot coffee. Yeah, and that was all that went into it. We thought about making maybe making it a cold brew version of it, but because it's hot out.
SPEAKER_00It's a hot coffee with a bunch of liquor.
SPEAKER_01With a bunch of liquor. I don't know if we did Indonesian coffee, but we have one ounce of Kahlua, one ounce of creme de coco, creme de not creme de cow, creme de cacao. Boy, that's yeah. I'm like, I got your bug of having trouble pronouncing things. And then we did a half ounce of brandy. And it's not bad. It's a liquored-up coffee. It's liquor coffee.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's, you know. I was looking and uh the night monkey on here looks good. It's a coffee drink. Do you see that one?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I can't remember if it has a hint of cilantro. If we've no, I don't think we have tried that one. That's an interesting one for it was one I was thinking about doing at some point because it has a good uh good name to it. Now I can't even see there it is, the night monkey. Yeah, interesting. Oh, a hint of cilantro. You know, we actually have let's do night monkey on a future episode soon because we have all those.
SPEAKER_00We do have everything but the cilantro, which is easy to grab.
SPEAKER_01Yep, yeah, might even be out in the garden.
SPEAKER_00But what do you think of this drink?
SPEAKER_01Not bad. I don't know if I did that part. No, no, I said it's not bad. Oh, it's not bad. It's a hot coffee. I don't know when I'm ever gonna feel like having a hot, liquored up coffee at Disney World.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, in the evening, I guess, at a restaurant.
SPEAKER_01Maybe maybe with dessert.
SPEAKER_00With maybe if the if you're feeling, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's not that it's bad.
SPEAKER_00I'm not an after-dinner drink kind of person anyway.
SPEAKER_01You're not with the down with the apertif.
SPEAKER_00Not down with the apertif.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah. We have done, did we do Mustang Coffee? I think we did. Yeah, Crown Royal. We've done a few of these on there. I think these are the two cut hot coffees we've done because we've only done a couple of coffee drinks. Right. So not bad, but I think there's a lot of other drinks that are probably a better go-to if you're gonna go to Tiffin's or next door to Nomad Lounge. Because I have tried several of these at Nomad Lounge. Uh-huh. We have had a couple of them. I think the Anna Mazing and the Lamu Libation are a couple that we've had.
SPEAKER_00That was in our top drinks, I think, the first year.
SPEAKER_01It was. So there are other, I think there are better choices at if you're gonna go to Tiffin's or Nomad Lounge. And not that this one's bad, but it's it's it's a coffee. It's a coffee with some booze with a little taste to it, a little kick. Yes,
Rating The Drink And Better Picks
SPEAKER_01hot takes.
SPEAKER_00We've been talking about this for a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I decided we needed to do hot takes because we needed to do a hot coffee. So the the drink drove this episode, yeah. And then there we go.
SPEAKER_00And these were fun to come up with. They were. I had a really good time. So we'll see how if they're funny, yes, or just fun.
SPEAKER_01And we didn't communicate as per usual, right? So you did a whole bunch more than I did.
SPEAKER_00I do. I have 13 on my list. Who knows how many I'll get to here?
SPEAKER_01And I have seven, and but I thought that we would talk a lot about some of these. Some of mine will probably might take a little extra to explain.
SPEAKER_00Oh, good. So I might not get through them all. It doesn't matter. I'm just gonna start at one and then go up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I think go ahead. Okay. Kick us off.
What Counts As A Hot Take
SPEAKER_00My first one is that the Dap the Dapper dance singing, it keeps open a secret portal to the year 1957.
SPEAKER_01Is that a hot take?
SPEAKER_00It is. In the parks?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_00In the parks, there's a portal. It and they sing, when they sing, it keeps the portal open.
SPEAKER_01It does. A connection to the past. Or are you going conspiracy theory on me?
SPEAKER_00But that's I guess it could be both.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it could be. And we were we had talked about doing another conspiracy episode. It could be.
SPEAKER_00It could be a conspiracy also, but it's also a hot take. It is. Because it's my take on something without any kind of backing it up, any kind of evidence.
SPEAKER_01It's a tie to the original when it opened. Did they start in 57? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I just put the year 57. I didn't even think about the year it opened. I could have accidentally put a year it wasn't even open yet.
SPEAKER_01See, now we now we have I have to look that up. Okay. So my hot take.
Retiring Matterhorn Autopia And Nemo
SPEAKER_01This is this is gonna be a this is gonna be a hot take. Okay, I think. Matterhorn, it's time for it to go. They need to raise that sucker to the ground. So when did they build that? In 59? Something like that. Yeah. It's been there forever, almost 70 years now. It's they have to shut it down for like three months at a time to just keep it barely operational. It's falling apart. It's just time to go. But it's part of a bigger picture of like that whole area. So Fantasyland works because it's that little hub, and there's all those rides all around the carousel. And so that kind of works. And then you have the Matterhorn and Small World, which are outside of that little kind of nub, that little hub there. And so the kind of no man's land.
SPEAKER_00It isn't no man's land.
SPEAKER_01So my thinking is you get rid of because that needs to go to, and that might be another hot take that people don't like to hear.
SPEAKER_00That would be.
SPEAKER_01People are gonna freak out if you say Matterhorn's going away.
SPEAKER_00So there's where we're different on this. Our definition of hot takes a little different.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Mine, yours is controversial things that could really happen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Minor things people say. My thought on a hot take is people say without any kind of thought, have no idea what they're talking about.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. And they just say stuff. I think I'm I thought it was controversial. Because remember, churros are hot garbage.
SPEAKER_00Right. Well, I looked up the definition of hot take last night. Oh, I'm sure I knew what it was before I started. Okay. And we should have communicated that, which we did not. But we have two whole different little things going on here. Well, it's just fine.
SPEAKER_01So my thinking is that you know how the uh matter or the uh monorail does a little curly cue thing over uh and finding Nemo? Finding Nemo needs to go. All three of those rides need to go. They need to cut out some of that curly cue and have a whole new land right there.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01And it can, and I'm thinking like a princess land. So you could do a water ride, like a tangle, the Rapunzel. You could do, is it, I believe it's in Hong Kong, the frozen coaster. Frozen ever or not frozen ever after, but frozen. Frozen Ever After is the show in Hollywood Studios. And then Autopia just needs to go. So Autopia, it's that and finding Nemo were supposed to be part of, but they're really not. There's nothing futuristic about either.
SPEAKER_00It's not, it's not, and they'll never change that stuff.
SPEAKER_01Even if they put batteries in the cars, it's still it just all needs to go. That is my hot all that crap needs to go, and they need to build a whole new land in that whole area as part of the tomorrow land.
SPEAKER_00I think a lot of people would agree with you, but there's so many that wouldn't.
SPEAKER_01No. So many. Oh, yeah. Especially when you say Matterhorn and Autopia. Yeah, you just mentioned like I don't think anybody cares if Finding Nemo were to go away.
SPEAKER_00Probably not. There'll be a few.
SPEAKER_01There would be, yeah, there would be your outliers, but but like for the most but I think they could replace it with something so much better and so much more useful and so much more aesthetically pleasing. Because right now it sucks. That whole area sucks.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I agree.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_00I agree. We're on the we're on the same page with almost everything you're gonna say, probably. My I'm gonna agree with you.
SPEAKER_01We tend to agree, but I think most people, if you said Matterhorn needs to be go and Autopia needs to go, there's gonna be a lot of people losing their minds. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And as I as I look back, I watched a bunch of YouTube videos on former rides with that they're reimagining around the world and stuff for from D23. And that's my take, that's my take on everything, is they every ride needs to change.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, eventually, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right. I'm even have that on. I mean, I don't I think I have that on my on the D I have that
Fireworks Memory Wipes And Park Mind Tricks
SPEAKER_00somewhere else. Anyway, anyway, my next one on my definition of hot cakes is the Castle Fireworks, they're like one of those lights from the Men in Black movies. Oh they reset your memory on how much money you spent that day.
SPEAKER_01There you go.
SPEAKER_00When you see the flash of the firework, uh-huh, you forget how much money you spent.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then so you can spend more the next day. Okay. Disney magic.
SPEAKER_01That's how they're working it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Mind control. Not too far off, I think, with Disney. They do a lot of mind control.
SPEAKER_00These both might be true that I have so far.
SPEAKER_01Not mind control, but sculpting your thoughts. Yeah. Why don't you do another one? Okay. Because you got 13 here.
SPEAKER_00All the music they play around the park makes guests not realize how much their feet hurt.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'd believe that.
SPEAKER_00That's that's the reason. That's the type of music they play, and when they play it, it's all about making people not realize and not think about their feet that they're hearing the music.
SPEAKER_01The dogs are barking.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I believe that. Okay. Next one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01For me. Turn the monorail into transportation at Disneyland and not no longer have it as a ride.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_01So with stops at downtown Disney, Disneyland, DCA, it needs to stop, and even at Grand California.
SPEAKER_00It's a hotel too. Why not?
SPEAKER_01I could have a little bit more on this on one of my other takes going down the road. Where because I think, yeah, it needs to be a transportation hub. Granted, you could get on it and go on as a ride, because you could do that in Disney World. But Disney World monorail is a is a transport form of transportation. It's not a ride.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_01Disneyland, and this is the argument that it isn't in Disneyland, but it has a wait time, so it's a ride. It's an attraction. So there you go. There's my hot take. Good hot take. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Okay. My next one is the hitchhiking ghosts. They're not really hitchhiking at all. They're just trying to get the heck out of there.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00They've been in that mansion for way too long.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. They are. Yeah. They've been dead. Yeah. But it's time to go. 70 years.
SPEAKER_00I know. That's crazy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Same ghosts. Same ghosts. I wonder where they were before Disney captured them.
SPEAKER_00Well, probably at that house. They probably live there.
SPEAKER_01Have you seen that movie 13 Ghosts? No. Okay. Not at all. Don't even know what it is. Tony Shaloub. Okay. Monk. I think yes, Monk. Shannon Elizabeth F. Murray Abram is in it. Okay. It's it's definitely a horror movie. Uh-huh. But they capture ghosts.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I and I'm thinking that's how they captured all the ghosts.
SPEAKER_00I think the house was there when Walt built.
SPEAKER_01Disyland. Yeah. All haunted.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was already there. That's an old mansion that was there beforehand.
SPEAKER_01Full of the dead people. Yeah, full of dead people. Yeah. That's quite possibly true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and he was scared. He was scared to tear it down. Yeah. Because they haunted him at night.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
Tomorrowland Needs Retro Futurism
SPEAKER_01Okay. So a lot of talk about Tomorrowland. And I know that they announced stuff at D23. Tomorrowland needs to go completely retro futuristic. It needs to have a retro futuristic look. We've talked about this before. Yeah. It can't try to it can't go in 2026 what they think things are going to look like in 2080. No. I think it needs to go back to like a mid-century aesthetic. So the Fantastic Four, that type of look. Not Fantastic Four themed, but that same look. That 1955 futuristic that looks kind of modern, but that retro look to it. And then in 20, 30 years, you could up it again and mix, make it look retro futuristic. It's going to look the same, but they're going to update it just a little bit.
SPEAKER_00I like a fallout vibe.
SPEAKER_01Oh, there you go. Some ghouls walking around.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, just that just the that nuclear age. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the mid-century vibe. Yeah. Like what yeah. The atomic age.
SPEAKER_00Right. The atomic like what they thought the future would be in 1955.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00The 1955 look with futuristic stuff in it.
SPEAKER_01With futuristic stuff in it. Right. Like you could do, I still think they need to do the AI character meet and greets.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a great yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, because you could meet any character. And hopefully they don't, it doesn't go skynet on you. But but there you go. And honestly, I was looking at Tomorrowland, you know, with my first idea about Matterhorn and turning creating a whole new land there and getting rid of the three rides and putting in some new rides into a new land. But you could kind of wall off and still have plenty of space in Tomorrowland for it to be still really cool. You got your Astro Blasters, Star Tours, the theater, a couple of shops to shop in, but you got the uh Star Wars Launch Bay. Return the People Mover. That needs to make a comeback. Totally. And there needs to be something you could put a whole new ride into Star Wars Launch Bay. So there's tons of room to have that as still a good land.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01We'll see what they come up with. And just smaller. We'll see what they come up with. I think that's D23 in 2028. Probably. Is when that's getting. Probably.
SPEAKER_00That's just a very little hint.
SPEAKER_01But either way, it needs to, if when they redesign it, it just has to go retro futuristic.
SPEAKER_00That'd be great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That'd be cool.
SPEAKER_01Mid-century 1955 Atomic Age.
SPEAKER_00It'd be cool to walk into.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I like that vibe. Love that vibe. I have
Should Rides Expire And Reboot
SPEAKER_00a hot take that I just thought of. Okay. For on your in your definition. Okay. Every ride should have a shelf life of 10 to 15 years. And then totally reimagined. Not completely reimagined, but I'm not I'm not afraid of them changing all the scenes and pirates to something different.
SPEAKER_01I see. I hear you.
SPEAKER_00One of my favorite rides, but yeah. It could be changed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they might be able to push it 20 years.
SPEAKER_00Maybe too, yeah. That's just what I came on the top of my head.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But a certain amount of time. Shelf life.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00And then like Space Mountain total overhaul.
SPEAKER_01Total overhaul. New track, new cars.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I see. And we keep one. I maybe we should have done the D23 episode first.
SPEAKER_00We're going to mention it a bunch here, probably.
SPEAKER_01What's funny is that is actually the episode that's going to play first. So we're talking now about the past. So the new cars for one of the new Space Mountains look so the cars are so good. I think Paris. Uh-huh. Yeah. They look like roomier and more leg room. And like that's going to be a ride that it feels more like Guardians type of thing. That's what those cars look like. Anyway. We're going to Paris. Going to Paris.
SPEAKER_00Pack the bag. We're going when it opens. Okay, go ahead. The Skyliner is a secret guest spying system. So every few cars, a cast member is sitting in there spying on the guests.
SPEAKER_01Spying on the guests. Why?
SPEAKER_00It's top secret, I can't tell you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00That's one of my Aaron's definition of hope.
SPEAKER_01You want to do another one?
SPEAKER_00I can do one more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Let me see what else I have here. When a ride closes down, it's not because it's usually sometimes it's for a like a hat falling off. Yeah. Something like that. Glasses. Most of the time it's to recharge the ride because Walt invented this new electric. It's not electricity they use it all in the park.
SPEAKER_01It's the ether. It's Disney Magic. It's Disney Magic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's what they call it. That's where it's that's where it came from. Tesla called it the ether. Yeah. That's where it came from. It's supposed to recharge the ride. Yeah. With more Disney magic, and they had to shut it down because we can't know the secrets behind it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And for those who were born, you know, 10 years ago, when I say Tesla, I don't mean Elon. I mean Nikola Tesla. The OG Tesla. The Tesla where we get the name Tesla.
SPEAKER_00Right. If you are a 10-year-old, listen to our show. Stephen Helsinki will have a no-alcoholic drink for you sometime.
SPEAKER_01We've only had one. Stop. Get your parents a permission. Okay, my next
Shorten Epcot Festivals And Seasonal Events
SPEAKER_01hot take. Epcot festivals need to last no more than a month.
SPEAKER_00I like it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So festival, and looked how long these lasted. Hold on.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Look how long these last. Festival of the Arts, which is the after January through February, 39 days. Festival of the holidays, 34 days. That one's acceptable because it's in between Thanksgiving and Christmas and or New Year's. Fair. I'll take that one. That one's okay. Food and wine, 87 days. That's almost three months.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Flower and garden, 90 days. Almost three months. They need to be a month long, and that's it.
SPEAKER_00So are you saying they the same amount of festivals one month long or adding new festivals?
SPEAKER_01See, you could do new festivals if you wanted to, but I think three months for a festival, that's not a festival.
SPEAKER_00No, it's not.
SPEAKER_01That's a season.
SPEAKER_00It's a thing.
SPEAKER_01That's a whole, yeah. So, because what is that? One, two, three. That's eight months out of the year. You've got a festival going on. I think Disney goes overboard on stuff and doesn't let the anticipation build. They did that with Star Wars. I think they did with that with Marvel. Here, here's some more Star Wars. Here's some more Star Wars. Here's some more Star Wars. Cool it. Give us two or three years of nothing, and then throw out some more Star Wars. And I think that's what they need to do with their festivals.
SPEAKER_00I totally agree.
SPEAKER_01Build some anticipation. Now, the problem with that is those first two days are going to be crammed like now with content creators. I think I got some hot takes about some content creators and what they either maybe they can come at midnight and do an overnight thing where they get to test all the food and then just get out. You know, we don't need 70 takes on all the snacks in the festivals.
SPEAKER_00Bill, and that's what drove our show to be the subject matter we have because we started out as like a Disney news show.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00And there's 10 billion of those.
SPEAKER_01There's 10 billion of them.
SPEAKER_00Everyone does that. Everybody does that. I'm going to tell you what's going on in Disneyland. I'm going to read this off the internet.
SPEAKER_01I'm going to rank the roller coasters.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, which we'll do again. Yeah. In a hilarious way.
SPEAKER_01In a hilarious way. Yeah. So, okay, now I'm trying to think of like hilarious ways to do a ride ranking. Anyway. We'll do that. The festivals, the festivals need to be shortened because Disney is horrible with their anticipation, and they need to just shorten stuff. And I have another one that'll go along with that. Go. Oogie Boogie. No more than mid-September and raise the prices.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna I don't know, raise the prices for spendy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's too bad. Raise them. Okay. They want to make their money, that's fine. It's my life. Make it 200 bucks. It's although it's pretty close to 200 right now. Yep, sometimes. But stop the early August for October. No.
SPEAKER_00I know. I'm going, I'm going to Oogie Wiggy Bash in like what four weeks?
SPEAKER_01Yes. Mid-September's cool.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I think I think October. It should be October.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, if it were October, I'd be fine with that, especially with the Haunted Mansion. Yeah. Like it shouldn't be four months of the Jack Skellington Nightmare Before Christmas overlay.
SPEAKER_00October through December. Yeah. Jack Skellington. October only through 31st.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Twice a week. Well, they do three right now, and I think three's okay.
SPEAKER_00Three's good too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.
SPEAKER_00All that stuff should only be for the season and then done.
SPEAKER_01And then done.
SPEAKER_00Day after Thanksgiving, Christmas is up until January 1st and then it's gone.
SPEAKER_01Yep. So totally, totally. I almost went a month, and I thought, well, maybe that's a bit drastic, but I like a month. A month would be good. And see, raise the price. Build the anti sell it out. Build the anticipation and sell it out.
SPEAKER_00People why they don't get tickets anyway. Why make give them more days?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Exactly. So there you go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're pretty soon they're gonna have Disney Channel month.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they gotta they gotta shorten everything. Okay.
SPEAKER_00I totally agree with shortening everything.
SPEAKER_01Go ahead and do a couple
Lines Snack Hype And Food Reviews
SPEAKER_01more.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Two, three more. People spend more time trying to decide to stand in the line or not than actually stand in lines. It's true. I think it is. It's a 20-minute wait. Should we what's a 45-minute wait? Should we wait in that line or not? Let's think about it a while.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And boom, they wait 45 minutes.
SPEAKER_01Let me check what else is available. Right. Well, we could go do that. Okay, we could walk back across the park.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's go walk across the park. Oh no, it got too crowded. Let's leave go back over this way. Yeah. Too much walking around.
SPEAKER_01Just make a decision and go with it. And do it. And do it.
SPEAKER_00That's almost that's the in-between hot tank.
SPEAKER_01That is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The best snacks at Disney are always the ones you don't plan to get before you go.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Like I'm gonna I'm gonna go down there and have this new taco burrito thing they have. Taco burrito combo, the new snack. I gotta get it. And then you get down there and it's just average. Yeah. Like a cheese, the cheeseburger spring rolls. Yeah. Just average. Or below.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, they taste just like a McDonald's cheeseburger. No, they didn't.
SPEAKER_00Not even close. It was like taste like a poor attempt at a cheeseburger spring roll.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Tastes like a cheeseburger spring roll.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. We should do that. We're coming up with episode ideas like crazy on this on this episode. We should do hyping up the bad food episode.
SPEAKER_01Hype the bad food. Okay.
SPEAKER_00You know how they get online, they all the online people they all agree that something kind of crappy's good.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Like the cheeseburger spring roll.
SPEAKER_01You know who complains about everything? And I can't remember the name. I started watching her show and I stopped watching it because she literally nitpicked everything. It was she was a food channel.
SPEAKER_00You go to Disney all the time, and then you don't like anything, you still go.
SPEAKER_01She was nitpicking the food. Okay, and here's a here's a hot take. If you do not know how to pronounce food, you should be Banned from doing food reviews. So I can never do a food food review.
SPEAKER_00I can't pronounce anything.
SPEAKER_01But like you, but see, you and I will go over how to pronounce stuff beforehand. You might still mess it up in the moment. I watch some of them and thinking of Dave Fresh Break, bless his heart. I'm a Patreon supporter of his and I think he makes great content. But his food stuff, he doesn't know how to pronounce anything. And that it drives me baddie. Because it's like, no, you should stop now.
SPEAKER_00I think I don't think he doesn't know how to pronounce anything. I think he gets so excited. This it could be. He gets so excited when he does everything. He's excited. He's the he's why he's our person. Yes. Because he loves Disney like we do. He's so excited to be there every day.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00That's how I would be if I got to go to the park every day. I would be less excited than I was if I went once a year. See, and he's so excited to be there every day. He's like shaky sometimes.
SPEAKER_01I would go 30 to 50 times. He goes like three, four times a week, but I would go 30 to 50 times a year when I lived down there. And every single time I went, I was excited to be there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I never was like, well, uh I get excited when I watch him. Yeah. The whole treehouse building. Yes. I was on the journey with him. It's like, dang. The whole time. The whole haunted mansion review. Oh, look, and they moved to Boers. Just talking about the Haunted Mansion. Exactly. And I was in for the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. The whole thing. All right, go ahead, do it.
SPEAKER_00The Emporium, the shopping area was designed by casino designers. Because you walk in, you lose all sense of time, right? And you come out $184 pourer with a mug you don't remember purchasing.
SPEAKER_01And you you get it's a maze. You get lost. Right. Just like in Vegas. It's like I'm lost. I might as well put a quarter in.
SPEAKER_00Play this machine.
SPEAKER_01Play this machine. Play this poker table. Little 100 bucks. Video poker here. Yeah. Yeah. Might as well buy it. Whatever the latest Furby thing is.
SPEAKER_00You go ahead. I only have two more that I'm going to use.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I have two more or two. Okay. Okay.
Big Hotel Ideas And Monorail Transit
SPEAKER_01Disney needs a massive 2,000 room value/slash moderate hotel with the Disney Forward expansion.
SPEAKER_00We've been talking about this for a while, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01I don't I know there's a lot of good neighbor hotels, and they've got their three. They need like a pop century, which has almost 3,000 rooms. They need something to that equivalent that's a value or a moderate there. Okay. So my idea, so they're talking about the Simbalot and what they could do with putting people want more rides over there and a whole new land, other stuff. I think it just I think you had a great idea with episode we did a long time ago. You talked about Encanto, a whole Encanto themed hotel. I've got something a little different. Okay. I think it needs to be the four lands of Zootopia. All the hotels, a centralized lobby, four hotels, all facing away from each other, and they each ones like the jungle land, the desert land, the all the different the water land. Okay. And this is where you have the monorail go around it. Okay, there we go. And you get to make a stop, so you gotta add some more monorail, and then you can stop at all the hotels with the monorail.
SPEAKER_00And that's a perk for staying at the hotel, which is horrible. Disneyland Hotel is my fairy place.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's close to it's close to some of the parks to me.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00How much I love it there.
SPEAKER_01How much okay?
SPEAKER_00And so but the perks being zero now.
SPEAKER_01Yes, there are no perks.
SPEAKER_00It's so much easier to go multiple times a year and stay at a good neighbor hotel. Yeah. And walk a little bit to the park.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's why I think they need to. And they talked about putting one down at the Toy Story lot. I don't think that it should be that far away. I think it should be right there. I think it needs to be the Simba lot, which is right next to Pixar. Uh-huh. And just huge. That's a great idea. Two to three thousand rooms, value moderate, 250 bucks a night-ish. Honestly, I think Pixar Place needs to drop down to a being a moderate again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Three deluxe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Because it doesn't because they re-themed it. It doesn't, it doesn't compete with Grand California nor the Disneyland Hotel.
SPEAKER_00And so that's why we used to stay there so often because it was cheaper.
SPEAKER_01It was cheaper. So it's a moderate. And I think they but they need a massive value hotel and different themed pools. And just it's that whole huge parking lot. It would be a huge hotel with the monorail going around. It fits with all the theming. And then you can you can ride the monorail into the parks and stops in all of the parks too. Yes.
SPEAKER_00They had a snake suite.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. See, and there's all kinds of animals. Yeah. That you could all kinds of characters. There you go. Love it. I love that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00One of my last ones is the cast members arrange the ropes for the parades when they put them out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00They put them in different configurations and then they sit up above and they bet on who will walk around in circles and never find their way. It's a big pool they have by cast members. Some people make quite a good amount of money sitting up there betting on like the guy in the orange shirt. He's going to walk around Matterhorn three times. Before he finds where he's just walking around Matterhorn three times.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's true.
SPEAKER_01It could happen. I could see that happening. Right.
SPEAKER_00These are all real. I read it on the internet.
SPEAKER_01You just, it's it's to your right or to your left, and it never stops. You just keep walking in circles.
SPEAKER_00Is this the same mountain? Is this wait? Yeah, some dad that doesn't know nothing about Disney.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Would have no idea. He's like, this is a different mountain.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. This mountain range. Where's the lounge? Are these the Tetons? Okay.
Why A Third Disneyland Gate Fails
SPEAKER_01All right. My last my last hot take. So this is a this is one of my bigger hot takes. Kind of like the Matterhorn needs to go away with Autopia. A third gate at the Disneyland Resort is a stupid idea. I totally agree. See, this is and this is why like hot takes don't really work with us because we kind of agree on all that.
SPEAKER_00Because I agree that they don't need to build any more parks in America right now. They just need to up the game on all the parks.
SPEAKER_01Up the game on all the parks that they have.
SPEAKER_00And if they if they're doing so far, then it's like, what do we do now? Then it's time to build a new park.
SPEAKER_01But there are so many people who who act like they're on the verge of building a third gate at Disneyland Resort. It wouldn't work. DCA works because it's right across Esplanade.
SPEAKER_00Right. DCA works now too. It didn't used to work very well.
SPEAKER_01No, well, because it's horrible. But it works because it's there. Uh-huh. They're together. There's no place to put a third park where they all stay together. I know. Like that.
SPEAKER_00Take the LA freeway.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Take the freeway over here.
SPEAKER_01Okay, no more Harbor Boulevard and get rid of all those hotels because that's where your third gate, because that's literally where it would have to be, is there. And that's not going to happen. So third gate is a stupid idea. So anybody who has who thinks that they should be building a third gate there, you have a stupid idea. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00Love that.
SPEAKER_01Now, fifth gate eventually at Walt Disney World, maybe I don't know, but not a third gate. Maybe.
SPEAKER_00I'm kind of against that so far. And I eventually I can see it. If it's the right thing, yeah. But not just to compete with the park up north.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Not for that.
SPEAKER_01I don't think they need to compete with the park. No, not yet, they don't.
SPEAKER_00It's not going like they thought it would.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And eventually someday I'll go to the park up north.
SPEAKER_00Someday.
SPEAKER_01Someday. But see, if I'm it I would I think I'd have to live there before I really want to go to the park up north.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Because it'd be hard to take a day away from Disney. Yeah. When we fly all the way across the country.
SPEAKER_01And to be honest, I lived in LA and the park up north was a 10-minute drive from where I lived. Or I could hop on the train, the subway, and take it there from my apartment and be there in 15 minutes. I never went in four years. Yeah. I would rather drive 35 minutes to an hour south to go to Disney World, Disneyland, than I would to go to the park to the north. So yeah, they're not competition.
SPEAKER_00No, not as what not what everyone's thinking. My last one.
Pirates Smell Theory And Signoff
SPEAKER_00Okay. This is a true, this is a true one. Okay. The smell in pirates. Yes. Right? Is taken from actual historical smells of pirate battles from 1669.
SPEAKER_01Really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. They bottled it. They bottled it. Yeah. They found it in the sea. Yeah. And they opened it. Walt opened it while swimming one day.
SPEAKER_01Found some stinky pirate smell and some bromine.
SPEAKER_00He was swimming off the coast.
SPEAKER_01They that's the thing is pirates smelled like bromine. Little known fact. Right. Right there. Factoid. There's your hot take. Pirates. Pirates smell like bromine.
SPEAKER_00Nice. Well, there it is. Hot takes two different versions, two different definitions of hot weather. We're all over the place here.
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